Cisco Podcast Network
The Cisco Podcast Network is a collective of podcasts from across Cisco spanning technology to culture and everything in between. Hear from Cisco customers, partners, and Cisco insiders on the topics that matter most to you. Email us with your feedback and suggestions. Discover your favorite playlists today!
The Cisco Podcast Network is a collective of podcasts from across Cisco spanning technology to culture and everything in between. Hear from Cisco customers, partners, and Cisco insiders on the topics that matter most to you. Email us with your feedback and suggestions. Discover your favorite playlists today!
Episodes

Jun 27, 2023
Jun 27, 2023
16 min
The IBM takeover continues. Scott Schell is joined by Dylan Boday, the VP of Technology Lifecycle Services Product Management with IBM. They discuss the evolution of TLS and the benefit to customers.

Jun 26, 2023
Jun 26, 2023
30 min
This is a special episode powered by the Cisco Emerging Talent Community (ETC) EMEA Chapter. Join our guest speakers, Chara Kontaxi (Director, Cisco Systems Engineering) and Paul Jordan (Vice President, Cisco US Global Enterprise), in a conversation with our host, Shaun Roberts (Principal Engineer, Cisco Customer Experience), talk about the Emerging Talent Community in Cisco, the importance of mentorship and sponsorship for a thriving career in Cisco.
For questions, comments, or feedback, please email: cisco-techinsiders-podcast@cisco.com
Director, Systems Engineering
LinkedIn Profiles:
Chara Kontaxi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charakontaxi/
Paul Jordan (paujorda): https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-jordan-216a36b/
Shaun Roberts: https://www.linkedin.com/in/srobertsmba/

Jun 20, 2023
Jun 20, 2023
21 min
IBM is taking over Partner Perspectives for the next month! To start, Scott Schell is talking about the relationship between Cisco CX and IBM with Global VP and Managing Director, Janet Chess.

Jun 15, 2023
Episode 2 Serendipitous Encounters
Jun 15, 2023
Jun 15, 2023
16 min
Episode 2
Serendipitous Encounters - Mags Moran, Product Leader Webex
Episode length: 16 minutes
Mags shares how she and her team went deep on the use case, to develop Webex Public Spaces to make hybrid work less lonely. They also use data to prioritize product improvements, to deliver richer user experiences.
Key moments:
0:44 - Jeetu on where companies need to keep their focus
1:22 - Mags on her team's mission
4:11 - Improving user experience and prioritizing based on data
5:32 - Going deep on the use case (Public Spaces)
7:33 - Talking about the MVP
11:33 - Constantly improve (Message forwarding with content)
13:20 - Mags shares her favorite products
Episode Transcript: https://cisco.box.com/s/rud0uayjfbuhvrzy3gcpn6d2dv4sj9mw

Jun 14, 2023
Episode 4 Through The Lens Of The Who
Jun 14, 2023
Jun 14, 2023
13 min
Episode 4
Through the lens of the who - Cheryl Couris, Director, Product Design, Webex Events
Episode length 13 minutes
Cheryl talks to Principled about how the Webex Events team looks at the product principles as a shared ethos for what we value most at Cisco and how we can put our mission of powering an inclusive future for all to work. Cheryl and her team make sure all voices are being heard by focusing on "the who" the product is for before "the what" of the features the product should have.
Key Moments:
0:44 Jeetu talks about what product principles are and why we need them
2:38 Cheryl talks about what hybrid events are like today
4:14 How the Webex events team uses the product principles to frame their work
5:59 How to start using the product principles
7:15 Cheryl talks about her favorite principle, Make it 10x better
8:40 Personas help look at solutions through the lens of the who
10:21 Canvy, a great product that Cheryl uses in her personal life
Episode Transcript: https://cisco.box.com/s/jh09b4fxbest0akaad3zl0mc5l3rc7ib

Jun 14, 2023
Episode 7 The System Is Not Systematic
Jun 14, 2023
Jun 14, 2023
14 min
Episode 7
The System is not Systematic - Lindsey Wallace, Director, UI/UX Research
Episode length: 14 minutes
Lindsey leads a design and research team comprised of people who study people using Cisco security products. Her team seeks to create a unified policy of common elements for our security products to make them easier to use. Lindsey’s goal is to 10x people’s time and not add to their cognitive load, making things clear and simple to use.
Key Moments:
0:40 What product principles are
2:18 Product principles are like a touchstone.
3:50 How personas are used in design process.
5:02 Strategies to understand both buyers and users of products.
6:15 Clarity comes before simplicity.
7:40 Empathy for product managers who request research is critical.
10:58 Research is much more than chit chat with customers.
12:04 Lindsey’s favorite principle is building an open, extensible platform.
Episode transcript: https://cisco.box.com/s/k3a1kr2crnollnctcpe816qn2mokfus6

Jun 14, 2023
Episode 6 Disruptive Thinking
Jun 14, 2023
Jun 14, 2023
15 min
Episode 6
Disruptive Thinking - Gavin Ivester, Director, Design & UX, Webex Devices
Episode length: 15 minutes
Gavin says that sometimes we need to disrupt ourselves to figure out radically simpler ways to deliver customer value. Gavin and his team are taking on the challenge of measuring and rewarding simplicity. The principles can help teams apply their own diagnostics to see if they’re headed in the direction of building products people truly love to use.
Key Moments:
0:45 Product principle definition
1:26 Principles are a diagnostic to test your own work.
2:25 Principles are about both product and practice.
4:07 Keep things simple is the hardest principle to follow.
7:30 Vision to create the world’s greatest collaboration platform.
11:35 Why B2B brands matter.
13:20 Love is the principle that propels an organization forward most.
Episode Transcript: https://cisco.box.com/s/ngxgc6bibeww8lkukosuwjg1eqpuuvk7

Jun 14, 2023
Episode 5 Do You Recognize This Person?
Jun 14, 2023
Jun 14, 2023
14 min
Episode 5
Do you recognize this person? - Mark Thompson-Kolar, User Experience Researcher, Duo
Episode length: 14 minutes
Creating a customer persona requires lots of interactions with people, listening to their needs, and understanding the applications they use. If you don’t recognize the person being talked about as a product user, that’s a big warning sign that the persona created for the product isn’t quite right. Mark talks about the “Yes, and…” for a particular persona and the use cases for which the product was created.
Key Moments:
1:01 Mark explains all the types of research used to truly understand a persona.
3:00 How product principles can become culture drivers.
3:43 Which product principles are used most to develop personas.
5:04 How personas are validated with longitudinal personas.
6:21 Security employees are a persona, so if you must ask, do you recognize this person?
7:49 Deepening persona understanding by asking ‘yes, and…”
12:56 Mark’s favorite product outside of Cisco is the Comcast interface.
Episode Transcript: https://cisco.box.com/s/9cayz4uvciw7z5rwqklm6ekctbtqkp0q

Jun 14, 2023
Episode 3 Killing Tech Debt
Jun 14, 2023
Jun 14, 2023
12 min
Episode 3
Killing Tech Debt - Ryan Glover, Leader, UI/UX Engineering
Episode length: 12 minutes
Principled talks to Ryan about how he and his team are redesigning the interface and taxonomy of Secure Endpoint to make it extraordinarily simple for the user to know exactly what’s possible to do with the product. The team reduced ‘tech debt,’ by creating common templates, taxonomy, and nomenclature to drive stickiness and adoption.
0:44 Jeetu talks about simplicity being the ultimate form of sophistication.
Key Moments
1:57 How product principles are guardrails for how teams do their work.
2:50 Why you won’t be successful unless you align around customer.
4:09 Strategies to get to know the end-user.
5:11 Unifying design through the Magnetic Design system.
6:56 Aligning on product language and taxonomy.
7:57 The danger of focusing on the competition versus the user.
10:32 It doesn’t always have to be pretty, the case of Craig’s list.
Episode Transcript: https://cisco.box.com/s/sxbiz7ccdw5cetx9zukqnsbpy7rfshpv

Jun 14, 2023
Episode 1 De-risking Ideas
Jun 14, 2023
Jun 14, 2023
13 min
Episode 1
De-risking Ideas - Jehan Cowan, Product Designer, Duo
Episode length: 13 minutes
Jehan talks to Principled about how designers have the innate ability to turn ambiguity into clarity by visualizing progressing ideas. This process ‘de-risks’ ideas and helps a business make better decisions about which ideas to pursue with minimal investment of time and resources.
The designer’s craft can help paint a strategic roadmap with a clear path forward. However, designers must be ok with putting forth something that is wrong, as sometimes it’s the best way to move forward.
Episode Transcript: https://cisco.box.com/s/76vk9bs8zaa1fefxm20i3ww5bzzwskc9




